WHEN DOES THE COUNTRY SHOW THE PROPER WAY HOW TO BE A SECRET POLICE?COWARD INDONESIAN SECRET POLICE PLAYING WITH GUN FOR CIVILIAN OR IS HE A POLICE OFFICER UNDER COVER WORKING FOR FPI?…

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:MIm-sEJfVTqYXM:http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44603000/jpg/_44603162_fpi_226b.jpgThe police are likely to take the question of banning the Islamic Defenders Front, FPI, to the parliament.

On Monday in the west Java city of Cirebon several hundred Gus Dur loyalists, members of the NU (Nahdlatul Ulama), demonstrated over the Purwakarta incident of a few days previously, and demanded that the authorities disband the Front Pembela Islam (FPI), as well as the Majelis Mujahidin Indonesia (MMI) and the Hizbut Tahrir Indonesia (HTI).

Maman Imanullah spoke at the demonstration thus:

Islam is peaceful. It’s not like the way they (FPI, MMI, HTI) show it as these days.
(Wajah Islam adalah wajah yang damai. Bukan wajah yang mereka perlihatkan sekarang ini.)

In likely response to these sorts of demonstrations today a chief of police in Jakarta, Anton Bachrul Alam, said he would consult with the parliament over the question of banning the FPI.

The police can’t just ban an organisation, there has to be a legal basis for it. So the police will consult with the parliament.
(Polri tidak bisa begitu saja membubarkan sebuah organisasi karena harus ada dasar hukumnya. Untuk itu, Polri akan berkonsultasi dengan DPR.)

he said, giving the example of the Communist Party of Indonesia’s (PKI) banning.

The police have to act within the law, for example in the banning of the PKI there had to be an edict from the president, then the police could act.
(Polri dalam bertindak harus ada dasar hukumnya, misalnya seperti pembubaran PKI harus ada perintah Presiden baru Polri bisa melaksanakannya.)

and

As soon as possible we will have a meeting with parliamentarians on the question of the banning of the FPI.
(Secepatnya kita akan melakukan rapat kerja dengan DPR terkait desakan pembubaran FPI.)

There is certainly a lot of support within Indonesia for the banning of the Front but this is unlikely to be the best course. The best option is for the police to simply be able to do their jobs properly and take sterner action against the Front’s antics and intimidation, much like the recent Bekasi case.

Update 31st May

In a similar vein to the above today a senior Jakarta police chief, Firman Gani, said that the existence of groups like the FPI and MMI was the result of freedom of association laws.

But it doesn’t mean they can’t be banned. Maybe via consultation with the parliament it could be possible.
(Tapi bukan berarti tidak bisa membubarkan. Mungkin dengan beberapa langkah konsultasi dengan DPR akan bisa.)

he said at a meeting with parliamentarians. He advised against banning them:

There’s freedom of association isn’t there, if today we ban them tomorrow they will reform again.
(Kan ada kebebasan berserikat, hari ini kita bubarkan dengan susah payah, kemudian mereka mendirikan lagi.)

Meanwhile the chairman of the Muhammadiyah Youth, Abdul Mu’ti, says that some mass organisations (ormas) are out of control and advises the government to draft new laws to contain the problem. He said that there many organisations that had sprung up recently, with unclear motives and goals, and these groups were likely to use violence or intimidation.

Mass organisations have on several occasions recently been the cause of various forms of violence.
(Dan ormas yang tidak jelas itu, dalam beberapa kesempatan terakhir ini menjadi salah satu pemicu berbagai macam tindak kekerasan.)

Tags: Java

17 Comments on “Banning of the FPI”
Anonymous_aloy Says:

May 30th, 2006 at 2:03 pm
I fully agree. Banning won’t solve the problem. Just arrest the thugs whenever they violate the law. In the case of FPI, since violating the law is the reason for their existence, enforcing the law would mean renderring them irrelevant.

The problem is…maybe for some reasons SBY actually prefer this issue to be brought to the parliament. It’s not unlike him at all to act cowardly and just sit on the fence, trying to act all neutral. (”Let the parliament solve this, I’ll just act statesmanly and look pretty”)

Taking risks such as, you know, enforcing the existing law, is not SBY’s strongest suit.

Patung Says:

May 31st, 2006 at 5:54 am
I’ll just act statesmanly and look pretty.

Your’e not the only one who think this about him, see http://www.Indonesiamatters.com/138/media-man-yudhoyono/

Plus theyr’e saying in the Jak Post today that :

While relief workers and volunteers race against time to help the survivors of Saturday’s quake, there is the impression (hopefully wrong) that President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono and Vice President Jusuf Kalla are racing to win the sympathy of the victims. It is as if the two are nearing an election campaign, although the presidential election is still three years away.

What is questioned here is why do the two leaders seem to be so busy with public relations work?

At least as of Tuesday evening (6 p.m.), the President remained reluctant to declare the quake a national disaster to accelerate the delivery of aid and to anticipate an eruption by Mt. Merapi. Once it is declared a national disaster, the National Disaster Management Agency — which is headed by the Vice President — would be in a much more effective position to coordinate relief and reconstruction work.

People may speculate that the President does not want to hand the job to his Vice President because in Nanggroe Aceh Darussalam province there is a public perception that it was Kalla who worked so hard — and succeeded — in bringing peace and helping to rebuild the province after the tsunami.

Anonymous_aloy Says:

May 31st, 2006 at 2:16 pm
Aha! I only started to visit your website recently, so I missed that entry completely. I know Mr. Rizali back from college days in Depok. We don’t always see each other eye to eye, but one thing for sure: he never mince words.

One thing to add, though. You said the media-obsession isn’t a malevolent streak, but I don’t think it’s true anymore. It’s a dangerous and stupid game he plays.

But if SBY chooses to keep playing the PR game, we should do too. Here is a public image of SBY I would like everyone to see: SBY Loves FPI. For those who are campaigning to ban FPI, here’s my suggestion: buy a full page ad in Kompas and Jakarta Post with the words: “Why Do SBY Support FPI?” Or do a contest, ask people to list: 10 Reasons Why SBY Loves FPI.

I can guarantee you that this is not the image SBY wants the outside world to see, and that’s all he cares about.

JK? He’s just the other half of this unfunny comedic duo.

Me Says:

June 1st, 2006 at 7:49 am
Arrest every single member of the Front Preman Indonesia and the PBR. all they do is extort money and damage properties.

Patung Says:

June 1st, 2006 at 11:05 am
Anonymous, have you thought about this at all?

Rockstar Says:

June 2nd, 2006 at 11:58 am
This is just the right time for our gov esp SBY to rule this country with a bloody hand against any type of mob actions. I’d say shoot them on the head, each one of them. Seriously, we are the people, we pay taxes, while those retards.. I don’t think they do.

However we are the one who always pay the extra consequences. We just want to live in peace, and these buch of retards stole it from us and what our gov can do is just watching us like a soap opera.

Masindi Says:

June 6th, 2006 at 12:52 am
Do you want to know who is behind FPI? Wiranto

Rockstar Says:

June 7th, 2006 at 2:30 pm
whoever he is.. he’s a fag and retard.

Anonymous_aloy Says:

June 8th, 2006 at 2:22 pm
Yeah, how useful is the infoarmation about who’s behind FPI if nooned does anything about it.

I care more about who has the authority to stop FPI but does nothing: Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono and Jusuf Kall.

Anonymous_aloy Says:

June 8th, 2006 at 2:26 pm
Rockstar, you are insulting retards by equating FPI to them. And if you think about fags in that way you are not that much different from those FPI thugs.

Rockstar Says:

June 8th, 2006 at 2:42 pm
What on earth are you talking about??
If I insulted retared people, I’d say something directly about them. But did I? Read my sentence carefully, I said he was retard, which also meant he had a mental problem.
Correct me if I am wrong here. Don’t you think that whoever the guy is.. he definitely has a mental problem?

Fag, if the guy trully has GUTS, why would he really depends on the mass? That guy is a frickin coward. There should be a worst word to describe how fag that guy is.

and excuse me Annon, have you been caught by a mob on the street and your car was smashed by them? No of course you haven’t. Now don’t call me thugs. You have no right on calling me thugs. They are thugs.

Again, I don’t INSULT retards people, your statement reads as if I was insulting them.

Anonymous Says:

June 8th, 2006 at 5:04 pm
I’m just saying people who are unfortunate to have mental problems don’t need to be insulted by saying FPI are just like them.

“Retard..A person born with a mental condition and therefore has to work a million times harder to be able to do simple things (such as learn and communicate) that we take for granted. On top of this, a retard will usually suffer a lot of ridicule from society because people fear what they do not understand. The people who choose to make fun of the mentally retarded tend to be unable to comprehend that these people have feelings and emotions just like anyone else…”

FPI people are despicable, thugs, criminals. They ARE NOT retarded. Most retarded people are kind.

And about, ‘fag’, I’ll let you off on this one. But FYI, ‘fag’ is sometimes used as a derogatory term for those with certain sexual orientation. One could misconstrue that you have something against homosexuals or homosexuality.

It’s clear we both hate FPI, but I’m just suggesting you don’t use ‘retard’ or ‘fag’ as insults, but of course it’s your decision.

Rockstar Says:

June 9th, 2006 at 11:14 am
Come to think of it, you’re right about the retarded thing. I appologize.
I shouldn’t have used those words.

I just want to make it clear here that I don’t insult retarded people. Here, the word retard is leaning toward a negative meaning than positive. People usually use a more indirected words such as ‘development delay’ or ‘mental illness’ or something like that. Retard is a harsh word, (I think) nobody uses it to describe people with a mental health.

frank scott Says:

July 11th, 2006 at 6:42 am
I find it incredible that in the 21st century we still have these backward thinking groups in the world. The so called “leader” of this bunch of malcontempts states publicly that “osama bin laden is not a terrorist but a freedom fighter” what a farce. There is certainly a case for the outlawing of any organisation that has such fundamentaly flawed outlooks.
As for the FPI destruction of Playboy’s offices. Once again Indonesia is distancing itself from others in sth east asia. They still beleieve they are “above” other nations. They believe they are superior. THEY ARE NOT ! The FPIU are simply thugs and gangsters that are extorting money from businesses and attempting to instill a sharia style government in what once was a moderate government.
FINE.
Tourists VOTE WITH YOUR VISAS
BUSINESS VOTE WITH YOUR INVESTMENT
REST OF THE WORLD ignore them.. they are not worth the effort.. they shall fall into the abyss like all other foolhardy groups that have little or no understanding of the 21st century.

Karlira Kanakahuko Says:

October 23rd, 2006 at 1:25 pm
FPI are truly crazy so arrest and penalty them for death like what happen to three Christian Indonesians in Sulawesi!

Bingo Says:

June 3rd, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Indonesia is getting hot. Cup of passion will already been empty. We just only can see with do nothing. Our country just like a store without waiter. God will be take it back from us. We will going down and be separated each other.

Nutz_Nice Says:

June 5th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
I absolutely agree : shoot evry single head of FPI (FORUM PREMAN mngatasnamakn ISLAM)’s head. Cuz theirs aren’t useful anymore since they had lost their brain on Pancasila’s Day 1 June 08! Banning FPI! Hidup perdamaian antar agama di Indonesia!

LISTEN TO THIS ONE
CHRISTIAN PEOPLE PRAY WITH MY DEAR FATHER…NICE AND SOFT AND YET SO CLOSE TO HIM
BUT FPI BUSY TALKING ABOUT GOD AND SO FAR THEY HAVE TO PRAY WITH LOUD SPEAKER.JUST WONDER MIGHT BE ISLAM GOD IS DEAF WHAT?
This letter is to respond to a ‘By The Way’ column titled “FPI too busy talking about God” by T. Sima Gunawan published on page one of The Sunday Jakarta Post on June 8.

She starts her article with a joke: “Christians are so close to God that they call him “father” in prayer, while Muslims are so far away from Allah that they need loudspeakers to talk to him”.

It was stated that she couldn’t tell it earlier because she was afraid. Moreover, if Rizieq Shihab had found out, she said he might have beaten her black and blue or, worse, burned down her house. Knowing he is now in a custody, it seemed like she felt free to tell the joke.

She wrote her apology at the end of her article, saying that she didn’t mean to upset anyone by it. If she didn’t mean it, what she mean by joking like that? Is it a wise joke to tell, contrasting religious practices in public — where the reader could be a Muslim, a Christian, or something else? It doesn’t help things become better.

In another part of her article, she wrote about the FPI attack of Playboy in 2006, commenting: “But perhaps the real reason was that they were disappointed to find the Indonesian version didn’t have the same “hot” pictures as its American parent”.

Again, is it a wise thing to say? I, as a Muslim — even though I am not a member of FPI — feel insulted by these words.

There were also many things she explained were irrelevant to the main problem, such as Muslims call to prayer, Friday prayer, FPI’s activities at Ramadhan, and the joke about SBY at “Ayat-Ayat Cinta” (Verses of Love).

She said FPI was too busy talking to God. I am not going to defend FPI, but I will try to put this problem in its context.

I agree that talking to God is important but it isn’t enough. We must balance our interaction, both with God and human beings.

Judging others without knowing the real situation doesn’t make the situation better. What we need now is an understanding of each other as Indonesians with all our diversity.

ROCKY ADIGUNA
Yogyakarta

Comments (4) | Post comment A | A | A | | | | | | Jaka (not verified) — Tue, 06/17/2008 – 2:14pm

I’ve heard the jokes before. We just laugh. It contains truth but, as usual jokes, it exaggerates things. It is not the truth. So, calm down guys. Religion exists not to make people angry easily.

Yan — Mon, 06/16/2008 – 3:22pm

To ROCKY ADIGUNA:

Calm down.

I’ve heard much much worse sneers, jeers, and taunts from local mosque across my boarding room. Usually Jews, West, Christian, and Kafirs being the subject. If you live in Indonesia, you know this is true, even though there will be no media coverage on the hateful speeches.

I am not Jews, nor bule, but once christian and kafir. Most of what I’ve heard was just exaggeration’s of un-educated and hateful imams, but once in a while (twice, in all my life actually), it rings a bit truth among the hateful words.

If I could take a critics that way, why couldn’t you ?

Critics by words, no matter how painful or insulting it is, is better that throwing rocks and breaking glasses and torching venues and beating people who doesn’t fight back.

Do you agree with me ?

A. Farouq (not verified) — Mon, 06/16/2008 – 2:12pm

Sima Gunawan’s article was intended for us Indonesian Muslims to have more introspection in our daily lives. As an Indonesian Muslim, I am grateful the writer has the courage and has given us this chance for introspection. We should know that there is something wrong in Muslim society everywhere that we are getting criticism for it – and we should have the courage to accept these outside criticisms. Through these criticisms we can identify certain problems and hopefully address these issues. Otherwise we will be stagnant culture – as we have been since medieval times because we can not adapt to change. We need to stop being so damned sensitive about what some people say – it makes us look like we have an inferiority complex.

Or perhaps a little satire is a little out of reach for some of us… Maybe the article writer should revert back to slapstick humor, so we can all understand better.

Murtado (not verified) — Mon, 06/16/2008 – 1:16pm

‘I agree that talking to God is important but it isn’t enough. We must balance our interaction, both with God and human beings.”

What do you mean by it is not enough? Are you saying muslims should also go jihad and implement sharia where ever and whenever possible?

I don’t understand by: “we must balance our interaction with god and human beings” . How do you interact with Allah anyway? By doing everything that are instructed in the quran and sunnah?

The real situation is every good muslims should strive to implement sharia law, because that is every muslims utmost religious duty as instructed in the sunna and quran. And that is what islam is all about.

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